Ethics and compliance pioneer Susan Divers joins Sarah to reflect on leadership, risk, resilience - and the lessons learned from a career spent doing the right thing, even when it’s hard.
In this wide-ranging conversation, Susan shares stories from decades at the forefront of ethics and compliance - from negotiating early anti-bribery treaties at the UN to leading award-winning programmes at AECOM and shaping global thought leadership at LRN.
They explore values-based leadership, the role of trust in ethical culture, the power of practical progress over perfection, and how to make compliance human, engaging and impactful.
The episode is full of real-world insight and grounded wisdom - essential listening for any leader navigating risk, reputation and the realities of modern business.